Jan 9, 2013 9:00pm PST
that did. >> my point is, mr. pratt, even when you have a mass of well-trained people and firearms, you can still have mass murders. >> especially if you tell the victim you can't be armed, you have to wait for the calvary to get here, five, ten, minutes, or in the case of newtown, much later. >> do you know how many mass shootings have been in the united states, tby -- by definition, more than four people in the place? >> in the last 20 years -- >> i can tell you the answer, 62. do you know of the 62 mass shootings how many times a civilian has actually taken out the shooter? >> it is probably not that many, because we make it so hard for people to be able to defend themselves. >> do you want -- i mean, hang on, wait a minute, wait a minute. you have in america 300 million guns in circulation. you wouldn't contest that. 99 laws have been passed since 2009 to make it easier for americans to own guns, to carry them in public, harder for the government to track. and what i'm seeing here is a picture of evermore relaxed gun law laws. and a spike in mass shootings. and in fact, six of the 12 wo
Jan 13, 2013 2:00am PST
, round two, larry pratt, executive director of gun owners of america. mr. pratt, welcome back to you. >> thank you for having me. >> why did you agree to come back? >> well, i thought maybe we could help you sell some more newspapers. >> more newspapers? >> increase your viewership. >> we are a television channel you are aware of that? >> i'm sorry, yes, of course. >> if you are in the meeting tomorrow with vice president biden with the nra and walmart and others, what would you be sayinging? >> that the discussion has not been going anywhere that we can tell in a productive way. we are not talking about people defending themselves precisely in these gun-free zones. hopefully, at some point, we are going to come to the realization that repeating the same policy year after year getting the same deadly results is only going to get us the same deadly results is only going to get us the same deadly results the next time. >> right. so your solution, if you were there in that meeting, would be to arm every school, every church, every hospital, everywhere that members of the public can be?